By Al Schumann on Sunday August 12, 2012 12:10 AM
Color me surprised. The last time I read FDL, it was page after page of 'lookit teh wingnut!' The ankle biting squads, nader-baiters and moderators went batshit over lese majeste. They gassed their own people, if you will. So what's the deal with this? Is it real?
Comments (17)
I'm sure they will be back to the "lesser of two evils" routine shortly. This asshole DD needs to expand his reading list. He cites the fucking Huffington Post and ABC in the very first paragraph then wins the trifecta with the NYTimes.
Posted by par4 | August 12, 2012 8:53 AM
Posted on August 12, 2012 08:53
That would be true to form. Get out in front of discontent, fan it a little, then stop abruptly just at the point where something meaningful could take shape.
Posted by Al Schumann | August 12, 2012 8:56 AM
Posted on August 12, 2012 08:56
Yup this looks like claim staking by the Trojan horse brigade
Even if this particular tongue wags with conventional sincerity
The site is pure Trojan Horse shit
Posted by Op | August 12, 2012 9:33 AM
Posted on August 12, 2012 09:33
Leading a movement
Crying
hands off our earned entitlements
Will in time and under press amped yahoo battering
become
A fair play for social security committee
Posted by Op | August 12, 2012 9:36 AM
Posted on August 12, 2012 09:36
One needs to speculate some
But
imagine you face a solid majority preference
for single payer
Higher and earlier social security payments
Higher minimum wages etc etc
Like this poster enumerates
Perhaps you can defy it
But maybe it's better to betray it
With cheap promises Full of side exits
To protract the Roosevelt legacy
Nicely combined with frenzied gestures toward a horrific ghoul led alternative
Already celebrating while
Urinating on the white house door
Posted by Op | August 12, 2012 9:56 AM
Posted on August 12, 2012 09:56
Re Ryan, liberal "logic":
"Ryan will cut Medicare."
"But Obama wants to cut it too."
"Yeah, well, it does need to be cut. Costs are unsustainable, you know."
Posted by Chomskyzinn | August 12, 2012 7:14 PM
Posted on August 12, 2012 19:14
Two representative comments here:
and here:
Any thoughts?
Posted by sk | August 15, 2012 4:19 PM
Posted on August 15, 2012 16:19
Sk
The second passage is the triumph of the old line
The mission of philosophy is not to change the world it's to mis undertand it
The first passage might go any number of ways
Some even put the ball in fair territory
Posted by Op | August 15, 2012 7:08 PM
Posted on August 15, 2012 19:08
Last time I checked, the only people who were fully mobilized to protect their social democratic entitlements to the point of almost physically assaulting elected representatives --- and surely scaring the shit out of them --- were town-hall Tea Partiers defending Medicare. The left mocked their rallying cry, KEEP YOUR GOVT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE, rather than hail, and emulate,, their insurrectionary zeal. If the left is indeed dead, it's because we have lost the will to scare anybody. The commenter's defeatism is self fulfilling.
Posted by Chomskyzinn | August 15, 2012 8:36 PM
Posted on August 15, 2012 20:36
Couldn't mantra of the "party of nihilism, tribalism and anger" chanted with metronomic frequency every few years itself be "a kind of solution"?
Posted by sk | August 15, 2012 9:38 PM
Posted on August 15, 2012 21:38
sk, my thought: FUCK the lesser Evil bullshit, Evil is Evil. ... Of course the UZ (et al, in other countries) have an ancient history of ‘educating’ otherwise, and requiring persons to bow to that lesser Evil concept in order to stay afloat and make coin, particularly in the skoolz and on the jawb.
Posted by diane | August 17, 2012 9:29 PM
Posted on August 17, 2012 21:29
(and okay, I'll hold my nose and jump in those attributed to SAPPY pink 'female's waterz ... on a predominately 'male' (as in ying or yang, I can never remember which is which, and both energies have their equal advantages and disadvantages) place: ... We hope you're okay Michael and Al, we've missed you, Owen showed up yesterday, or the day before, so we know he's at least alive (though he might have had the decency to cue those of the rest (AND THAT IS CERTAINLY: NOT ONLY THE SAPPY femalez!) that ya'll are okay ....fuckin assholes ...., i'm kidding. (not!) )
Posted by diane | August 17, 2012 10:12 PM
Posted on August 17, 2012 22:12
Comrade SK, my first reaction to the two samples you posted above was, these guys are on crack! Blaming the Christian fundamentalist crazies for the mess we call America is too simplistic and absolves the guilt of the silent majority that supports the atrocities of the empire within and abroad. The second commentator is only right in his assertion that the Left is dead. There is no opposition in America, organized or otherwise. His justification for the Democrats as the guardian angels of science, art, culture, and logic is a classic case of Cognitive Dissonance. And yes, I agree with you that the mantra itself is a solution.
It's a given that every four years we elect a government that is worse than its predecessor, Democrat or Republican. Knowing that Obie 2.0 would be by far worse than its debut release, do I really give a shit if Romney wins the election? No. As crazy and perverse as it sounds, I would actually enjoy the specter of him loosing to Mitten. Certainly a small penance for the miseries he's brought upon us and the rest of the world.
Posted by Merkin in Montreal | August 17, 2012 10:36 PM
Posted on August 17, 2012 22:36
Of course in this life one never can be sure about tomorrow, as Cockburn's recent departure reminds us. But to offer some small hope to those in their first cycle at SMBIVA, August is yachting season for MJS.
He may be becalmed somewhere in L.I. Sound hoping for some wind to take him to Maine. That has been the trend for several years. Sometimes he makes it and sometimes he don't.
Usually there is an announcement of his departure, however.
Al is probably doing another summer refresher on counter-revolutionary suppression at Dzerzhinsky U.
But, who knows? It could be they are just bummed out about Madonna's take on l'affaire 'Pussy Riot'.
Suggestion: Start your own scrap here and have fun, like girls just wanta.
Posted by Boink | August 17, 2012 10:53 PM
Posted on August 17, 2012 22:53
thanks, Boink. I did check back, before my comment, as to prior breaks taken; at least to last year, where, as you noted, the departure was announced.
And yeah, as you imply also, recent unexpected, back to back events, tend to cast shadows.
As far as scraps go, I did momentarily scrap with Owen, the other day, directly below, but he's chickened out from replying.
Posted by diane | August 17, 2012 11:59 PM
Posted on August 17, 2012 23:59
These seminars tend to be deadly dull, but they let me deliver a keynote lecture on ice axes. The demonstration was a crowd pleaser.
Posted by Al Schumann | August 18, 2012 12:09 AM
Posted on August 18, 2012 00:09
Well said, compañera Merkin. Cognitive dissonance levels tend to be high in Empires in their late phase. Certainly a lot higher than they were during reign of, say, Eisenhower. As for culture, that rare filmmaker of integrity, JLG who knew '2 or 3 things' about its instrumental uses was on to something:
Posted by sk | August 18, 2012 7:28 PM
Posted on August 18, 2012 19:28