The indispensable IOZ commented recently on a post here, about the upset in Anthony Weiner's old bun -- er, district, to wit, New York's Ninth :
On one of those NPR call-in shows this weekend, they were really laying it on thick. Obama is going to lose the Jews for a generation if he doesn't out-Avigdor Lieberman Avigdor Lieberman soon. I doubt it, of course; Republican-party optics are too Christian... Rick Perry's rootin-tootin routine just doesn't appeal to The People.It's not even clear how much of a role Zionomania played in the Ninth District result; there was plenty of other stuff going on. But arguendo, let's accept the Zion-centric view of the result. What are the implications?
As Kissinger said to Nixon, Vell, Mr President, zere are Jews, und zen zere are Jews. The Ninth is full of Ultra-Ultras; very few of the other places in the country where Jews live in any numbers are quite so nutty on the subject (apart from Hollywood, of course).
Then there's the generational thing. The American Jewish Committee, which keeps a very nervous finger on the pulse of American Jewry and conducts polls about every five seconds, has found a very consistent downward trend among younger Jews in their attitude toward the Zionist project. Increasingly, they don't give a fuck, which certainly tends to underscrore the universally-acknowledged fact that the Jews are an intelligent people.
IOZ is certainly right about the general distrust within the tribe for people like Rick Perry, who looks like just the sort of guy who might have lynched your grandfather, or wanted to. But IOZ may perhaps be slightly underestimating the Shvartzer Effect. I remember the way the alter-kakers talked about the harmless David Dinkins here in New York; and the thuggish young guys from Brooklyn -- the guys with the knit kipot on their short-cropped scalps -- weren't far behind. But again, this is partly generational and partly local.
Still, though, wouldn't it be just grand if the Dems got bunged out of office for not being Zionist enough? The kind of injustice that's deeply just on a higher plane; the justice of the verdict thrown into sharper relief by the injustice of the indictment.
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Apparently the conservative end are willing to look past potential antisemitism.... I happen to work with many fairly orthodox gentleman--orthodox enough to use a negel vasser for netilat yadayim after restroom trips--and they, with the exception of members of the Kiryas Joel community*, vote Republican without fail.
*Quid pro quo after Hillary's intervention.
Posted by Peter Ward | September 19, 2011 7:56 PM
Posted on September 19, 2011 19:56
Yikes the zionics again
This site might rename itself
Stop me before I add a settlement again
Or stop me before i starve and bomb gaza again
And the number of pictures of the former congressman there
Has a problematic aspect too
And isir ioz invariably receiving the Homeric
The shat is it ....
Indigestable or whatever
What possibly motivates that ?
"ioz the indefuseable today
Took aim at former buffalo bill receiver
Elbert golden wheels dubenion...."
Posted by Op | September 19, 2011 8:53 PM
Posted on September 19, 2011 20:53
Hey, Owen, I live in New York. And IOZ always brightens my dull day, which is more than I can say for Paul Krugman. Living where you do, maybe you should take a prosecutorial brief for the Catholic Church.
Posted by MJS | September 19, 2011 10:10 PM
Posted on September 19, 2011 22:10
Attack the pope !!!
In this papist nest
Yes that really is a mission worth doing
for an old man of mixed heritage from Boston
The Vatican is my Israel
And I see your point
All politics is of not in object local
Is most often and with greatest piquancy
Locally provoked
In nueva York fur hatted Zion is everywhere
Here the self pity of the elder sox fan
stinks of papal paranoiac sadism
nambla in the sacristy and sacrificial sodomy after mass
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Ioz is prolly far less problematic then louis CK
And Louie makes me laff
Posted by Op | September 20, 2011 8:01 AM
Posted on September 20, 2011 08:01
Attack the pope !!!
In this papist nest
Yes that really is a mission worth doing
for an old man of mixed heritage from Boston
The Vatican is my Israel
And I see your point
All politics is of not in object local
most often and with greatest piquancy
Locally provoked
In nueva York fur hatted Zion is everywhere
Here the self pity of the elder sox fan
stinks of papal paranoiac sadism
nambla in the sacristy and sacrificial sodomy after mass
-------------
Ioz is prolly far less problematic then louis CK
And Louie makes me laff
Posted by Op | September 20, 2011 8:02 AM
Posted on September 20, 2011 08:02
I once considered a brisk outline of THE CHURCH
and the cold war in Boston
And on a later tide
The role of Catholicism in the making of Reagan democrats
but the papists are prolly best seen
In the kennedy "thing"
That secularized cult of broadcast temptations and martyrdom
A kind of serial anti petticoat junction urban swank soap opera
Marian To its knock knees and thick ankles
and yet always sexed up and full of putrid steam
Rocks off macho and weeping booze soaked sluts
Alas
Now abjectly in decline if not Flat out disintegration
Posted by Op | September 20, 2011 8:18 AM
Posted on September 20, 2011 08:18
Boston to camelot
A retro show of the pre Dallas 60's
Madmen stuff of course but politics not advertising
Maybe the lead is a Kennedy fix it guy from the four clover streets of Dorchester
No
A half Mick from blue hill ave
The leavings of Scape grace Celtic papa
And with a big breasted Jewish mother always in the back of his mind
or on the phone
Dennis Quaid ?.
Lots of church because well it's his job to keep the bug gars off the backs
Of the brothers Trimchaser
so to speak
Trimchaser ?
A nice Boston slinger that eh?
Inside that drifting haze of Marlborough man smoke
Is our hero bi ?
He sure hits the cocktails early and often
Something deep in there ticks away
Posted by Op | September 20, 2011 8:33 AM
Posted on September 20, 2011 08:33
Now you're cookin'! Think of the Pat O'Brien character in Angels With Dirty Faces.
Posted by MJS | September 20, 2011 11:38 AM
Posted on September 20, 2011 11:38
Ya
We need a regular on the turned collar side
Some XO of the Cahhhdnill's "
Cleft chin hair dark well combed and glistening
Pat O' in AWDF hits all the right notes
Perhaps the most devious manipulative
mock sanctimonious
pietistically ruthless man of god
In all of hollywoods Romishly infested
30's song book
Posted by Op | September 20, 2011 1:16 PM
Posted on September 20, 2011 13:16
The Ninth is full of Ultra-Ultras...wouldn't it be just grand if the Dems got bunged out of office for not being Zionist enough?
The real Ultra-Ultras camp out in "Judea and Samaria" as shown in this account of a Columbia grad's defense of a Brooklyn doctor:
Posted by sk | September 20, 2011 2:41 PM
Posted on September 20, 2011 14:41
Yeah, Judea and Samaria. Crazy places. Bad as Texas, almost. Somehow we manage to create this stuff and export it. Hell, we even produce batshit-crazy Jews in this country, and to some extent in foreign subsidiaries like Israel. But really nothing can compare with the home office.
Posted by MJS | September 20, 2011 5:46 PM
Posted on September 20, 2011 17:46
Long-distance nationalism is a well-known phenomenon and the production of such kooks—no pun intended—is an area where American efforts—as in so many other areas of human endeavor—are nothing worth writing home about. Orwell's notes from a lifetime ago are still worthwhile:
Posted by sk | September 20, 2011 8:36 PM
Posted on September 20, 2011 20:36