As a former whitewasher for this jungle statesman, way back there, long before auto-genocide was cool, last night I had a very sudden and profound recrudesence of that stoutly contrary spirit.
It occurred to me "enough is enough", after a particularly hyped BBC broadcast of an interview by phone with an innocent insurgent cooped up inside one of those besieged liberated towns in west Libya.
I've taken as my immediate task to step up and apply the same bleach to Col Q's record till humiliated by hard facts to run for cover.
Let's look at the bulletins that have rolled our way since the beginning of this uprising against his tyranny. My considered and boldly presumptuous conclusion:
There is very little third-party evidence of much beyond the usual autocrat's rough stuff and pot shots. In fact since the rebels "came after him" in Toyota trucks armed like an ad hoc mobilization of Somali irregulars, the colonel's forces have adhered pretty consistently to rules of armed engagement worthy of, say, the LA SWAT teams.
It's an asymmetrical conflict, after all...
Hey, states -- those coagulations of force and nasty action -- have a right, a well recognized right, or rather a duty, to defend themselves and due process against irregular bands of armed would-be topplers, don't they?
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States have a prerogative for that, and a fiduciary obligation. Murder is of course very bad. Very, very bad. It would be crass to argue that one might have to descend to it in order to protect existing arrangements.
Posted by Al Schumann | March 24, 2011 4:40 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 04:40
It also still seems silly to me to either whitewash or denounce when the most pressing need is for Uncle and his ghoulish lackies to get out and stay away.
Posted by Al Schumann | March 24, 2011 5:04 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 05:04
Better Muammar than the Republicans! We can only hope and pray that he can get those Libyan Tea Partiers under control before the country descends into anarchy!
Posted by davidly | March 24, 2011 5:32 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 05:32
I'm not sympathetic to Qadaffi, but I cannot make the leap - as a surprising list of folks have - from turning my nose at one more oil princeling to running verbal errands for the bomb dropping powers.
Anyone and anything which makes it harder to run a seven hundred military bases extraction protection racket gets at least a smile and a hint of forgiveness.
Posted by Jack Crow | March 24, 2011 7:52 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 07:52
"either whitewash or denounce "
ahh but states will be states senator Al
right ??
in the end even if they know what they do
they can't do much else
mistakes will be made
favor lost
and hegemonic opportunity taken
and trumpy accusations laid on their heads
and
in the climactic moments
when states will be states
they leave us side walk supers
with no choice
but to go to extremes ...with them or against them
in the event
a plague on both houses is too easy
abstentions are for safe self saving saints
and of course
the "maybe next time
it'll be U dummy "crowd
its too early to flip the page
to the final chapter
titled
"wow be to the oppressed millions
out there NOW "
lord knows they're really out there
in their millions
their millions upon millions in fact
all totally innocent assholes
living the life "short and brutish "
under one or another nasty statish
armed and dangerous
flim flam
problem as we all know much to well
these flim flams
these armed and dangerous gooneries
walking about
among the little or nothing
citizen subjects ..
stalking the people so to speak
licensed and often eager
to commit mayhem for orders sake
and the sake of orders ....
well madame hummingbird
ultimately
most of em
are uncle sponsored
BIG SAM's franchise outfits
and when uncle wants to revoke a franchise or
simply replace a hapless indy with a franchise
uncle uses the record of these gigs against themselves
the nuremberg double cross
and in our own nitwit innocence
we sivilizers pray for it all
we pray for
the "ghoulish lackies" of uncle con Summit
to go out there
baring lethal just desserts
and flaming last call cocktails
errr only to set up
flim flam 2.0
knowing all this hooey hellfire
awaits em
i suspect
makes it a hard world indeed
for its dwarf Macbeths
for the wicked self adorning ork kings
running these stinkingly imperfect
small fry autocrat states
oh the ingratitude ..the perfidy
of Uncle and his side winders
i just kinda feel for some of em
now and again
hey take col Q here
i bet he's trying best he can
to play by the rules here and now
yet ...its no dice
uncle's x
is on his painted and powdered brow
comes a closing time
for all little big shots
http://www.topnews.in/files/gaddaffi.jpg
and col Q
vogue queen of the maghreb
is headed for a slice up
like he's just
some common marketplace gyro .....
http://www.fearlesskitchen.com/WindowsLiveWriter/Gyro%205.jpg
surely in a few versions
of the universe
he gets a different ending
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 8:06 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 08:06
after i've stuffed my pile of horse feathers
back in its hefty bag
this remians
as the simple sane truth:
"the most pressing need is for Uncle and his ghoulish lackies to get out and stay away"
amen brother Al
amen
hands off the planet uncle slaughter
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 8:16 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 08:16
i biffed my punch line and it galls me
what in hell is this hiccup ??
"till humiliated by hard facts to run for cover"
what ??
am i planning
to force
the" hard facts to run for cover" ???
should read somethinh like this:
I've taken as my immediate task
to step up and apply the same bleach
to Col Q's record
that is until
i'm so totally humilated by hard facts
i run for cover
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 10:16 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 10:16
like jean genet
i love beating off
and hopelessly unwise
rear guard actions
such an action presents itself here
on behalf of the high styled issimo
of tripolitania
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 10:19 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 10:19
Owen:
Agreed, absolutely. This is why I'm such a fan of the Islamic Republic.For some reason I find it harder to take the same approach to Col Q though. Perhaps it's simply because he kissed and made up with the Empire a few years back, whereas the Perrrsiians haven't quite done that.
Posted by MJS | March 24, 2011 10:31 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 10:31
(believes demolishing butchermobiles is an honorable & righteous pastime)
Posted by hapa | March 24, 2011 10:44 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 10:44
http://www.counterpunch.org/johnstone03242011.html
paula von rhinestone has a delightful
romp thru the record over at
punch drunk left
do read it
sample:
" There was no proof of rebel claims that the Qaddafi regime was slaughtering civilians. Had there been visible proof of such atrocities, we can be sure that they would have been shown regularly on prime time television. We have seen no such proof. A UN fact-finding mission could have very rapidly set the record straight, and the Security Council could then have acted on the basis of factual information rather than of claims by rebels seeking international aid for their cause"
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 10:58 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 10:58
Thanks, OP, you've made the inconsistency of the western position clear. Now, drop the Diana Johnstone bit about no physical evidence of massacre. There's no evidence because the reporters all fled about a week ago.
Posted by senecal | March 24, 2011 11:56 AM
Posted on March 24, 2011 11:56
wait sen
consider this
the contrast
"crimes against humanity beat "
coverage
by the MSM
oiler naughty sheiks
versus
my poor flaming desert col
btw as i noted earlier somewhere
the col has allowed the occidental mdia into his zone
i suspect he realizes it curbs the myth spin some what
if a reporter in tripoli suggests she/he haven't seen first hand evidence
as vopn rhineo suggests
we'd see it
if it existed
because col Q
is capable of mass crime even may have commited it in the past
lets not to quickly assume that's whats up there now
----------------
if i had to choose between
the elected regime of
the ringo starr of teheran
and this omega man set up
of the evil uncle of johnny depp
i'd go for ringo
reluctantly based on base
class base
i don't like ringer's excess
of hard and fast face lines
he looks to gleeful
http://static.technorati.com/10/07/27/15405/ahmadinejad1.jpg
where's the turbulent depths in that face ??
whereas mon colonel ....
ahh the sciggling cross hatchings
and scraggles
looks to me more amiably chaotic
my tastes run to unsystematic whimsey fed autocrats
more then machine pols
its the hollywood in me
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 12:52 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 12:52
Desert civil war. No dog in this hunt. Regardless, Uncle out.
In re Islamic Republic: Best I understand it, Ringo has substantial popular support outside of the cities. Plus, he recently won an election, or close enough. I'm all for self-determination.
Posted by chomskyzinn | March 24, 2011 2:00 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 14:00
Between murderers, there's a faint satisfaction, mostly consisting of intellectual superiority, in picking the weaker. For example, Mussolini clearly a nicer guy than Hitler. And Salazar more fun than Franco.
Posted by senecal | March 24, 2011 2:30 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 14:30
In the Johnstone pull quote twould appear Johnstone has a faith in UN fact finding missions that only fit with someone who doesn't remember the way the UN Iraq weapons inspectors were handled in 2002-03.
Posted by Boink | March 24, 2011 2:35 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 14:35
Owen -- That picture has been heavily photoshopped, probably in some skunkworks back office in the Light Unto The Nations(tm). Or maybe by one of Alan Dershowitz's interns.
Posted by MJS | March 24, 2011 6:51 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 18:51
by god you're right
this is what he looks like
in a recent official photo
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/10/ringo-starr.jpg
Posted by op | March 24, 2011 7:20 PM
Posted on March 24, 2011 19:20
op,
If "a plague on both houses" is fundamentally legitimate as an opinion, it seems like the US left needs to vote Democrat or Republican. Moreover, it's probably similar reasoning that leads a fragment of the left to support Odyssey Dawn; they just identify the greater evil as Q.
It's bullshit. Dilemmas like this (false dilemmas) should be rejected as stated.
Posted by Save the Oocytes | March 25, 2011 3:14 PM
Posted on March 25, 2011 15:14
Shit, did my comment just get moderated?
Posted by Save the Oocytes | March 25, 2011 3:14 PM
Posted on March 25, 2011 15:14