... You'll be going somewhere else, with a nastier climate, in a year or so.
So Mr Obama has sorta-kinda fulfilled one campaign promise: the Guantanamo Bay concentration camp is to be closed. Within... a year. How we would laugh at some foreigner seeking our approval with this kind of initiative. Ahmadinejad: Okay, I'll stop hanging gay guys.... Next year. But this year -- hoo-ha! Line 'em up and keep 'em coming!
Why it should take a year is a question of some interest. I am not the greatest administrator in the world, but I do believe I could do it in a week, or a weekend, given the resources available to a president of the US.
Obama's maiden executive orders -- about Guantanamo, and waterboarding, and "rendition," aka kidnapping -- have been greeted with much hosanna-ing. But as always with Obama, they're much hedged-about with reservations and weasel-words. It looks a lot like buying time. Whenever you hear about the formation of a blue-ribbon committee, check to see that your billfold is still in your pocket.
Here's some paraphrased text, courtesy of the Associated Press:
The order establishes a review process with the goal of disposing of the detainees before closing [Guantanamo]....wait for it...The order sets up an immediate review to determine whether it is possible to transfer detainees to third countries, consistent with national security. If transfer is not approved, a second review will determine whether prosecution is possible and in what forum. The preference is for prosecution in Article III courts or under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), but military commissions, perhaps with revised authorities, would remain an option....
The order directs the secretary of defense to halt military commission proceedings...
...pending the results of the review.Well, prudence is a virtue. I mean, you wouldn't want to wind up a major criminal enterprise, just like that, without due reflection about the consequences.
Another Obama thunderbolt:
... requires that all interrogations of detainees in armed conflict, by any government agency, follow the Army Field Manual interrogation guidelines.(Unless I misunderstood, I believe my radio transmitted Obama saying, at a press conference, that this ruling holds "for the moment". )
It also orders the CIA to close all existing detention facilities and prohibits it from operating detention facilities in the future.Yet there will still be "detainees". So it would appear that the CIA has gotten a bit of a spanky, and its empire of dungeons and torture chambers has been reassigned to... whom? The Pentagon? Private enterprise?
Finally, the order creates a special task force with two missions. The task force will conduct a review of the Army Field Manual interrogation guidelines to determine whether different or additional guidance is necessary for the CIA. It will also look at rendition and other policies for transferring individuals to third countries to be sure that our policies and practices comply with all obligations and are sufficient to ensure that individuals do not face torture and cruel treatment if transferred.That is to say:
1) The CIA, once it has stood in the corner for a few months, can still hope that better days will come again, and the fun with the funnels and the electrical wires can recommence. Meanwhile, there's always that Georgetown brothel -- you know the one I mean.
2) Rendition will continue. But in a nice way.
3) The military are blameless paragons -- the people who gave us Abu Ghraib are going to restore our good global rep, so wantonly sacrificed by the CIA.
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Maybe he thinks it'll take a year to come up with a really, really good reason to keep it open.
Posted by Nicholas Hart | January 23, 2009 12:50 AM
Posted on January 23, 2009 00:50
It looks like typical Democratic poll smoking behavior. According to the latest PIPA poll, 53% would ban torture completely. 44% are torture enthusiasts. The break down on the latter shows 31% have some reservations, but remain pro-torture, and 13% are the prized jackboot demographic. Obama, as a moderate who wishes to govern for everyone, has balanced their needs and homed in on the "middle ground".
It just wouldn't do to knuckle under to that extremist 53%.
Posted by Al Schumann | January 23, 2009 1:46 AM
Posted on January 23, 2009 01:46
Leave it up to the good folks at the New York Times to lead the Guantanamo charge of: "You broke it, you buy it." Top-left story, of course.
Freed by U.S., Saudi Becomes a Qaeda Chief
By ROBERT F. WORTH
"The emergence of a former Guantánamo Bay detainee as leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch underscores the potential complications of closing the detention center."
Posted by Nate Johnson | January 23, 2009 7:50 AM
Posted on January 23, 2009 07:50
yeah i think they've been watching too much stephen colbert:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/70789/june-15-2006/formidable-opponent---guantanamo-bay
Posted by Tim D | January 23, 2009 3:06 PM
Posted on January 23, 2009 15:06
Obama's orders leave framework of torture, indefinite detention intact
By Tom Eley
23 January 2009
On Thursday, President Barack Obama issued executive orders mandating the closure of the Guantánamo Bay prison camp in a year’s time, requiring that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and military personnel follow the Army Field Manual’s prohibitions on torture, and closing secret CIA prisons overseas.
While the media is portraying these orders as a repudiation of the detention and interrogation policies of the Bush administration, they actually change little. They essentially represent a public relations effort to refurbish the image of the United States abroad after years of torture and extralegal detentions and shield high-ranking American officials from potential criminal prosecution.
In cowardly fashion, Obama staged his signing of the orders in a manner aimed at placating the political right and defenders of Guantánamo and torture and underscoring his intention to continue the Bush administration’s “war on terror.” He was flanked by 16 retired generals and admirals who have pushed for the closure of the prison camp in Cuba on the grounds that it impedes the prosecution of the global “war” and reiterated in his own remarks his determination to continue the basic political framework of the Bush administration’s foreign policy.
The continuation of the ideological pretext for wars of aggression and attacks on democratic rights ensures that the police state infrastructure erected under the Bush administration will remain intact. This is further reinforced by Obama’s assurances that his administration will not investigate or prosecute those officials—including Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and others—who were responsible for the policies of torture and illegal detention.
The orders signed by Obama do not undo the Bush administration’s attacks on constitutional and international law. They do not challenge the supposed right of the president to unilaterally imprison any individual, without trial and without charges, by declaring him to be an “enemy combatant.” Nor do they end the procedure known as “extraordinary rendition,” by which the United States during the Bush years kidnapped alleged terrorists and shipped them to foreign countries or secret CIA prisons outside the US, where they were subjected to torture.
They do not affect the hundreds of prisoners—600 at the Bagram prison camp in Afghanistan alone—incarcerated beyond the barbed wire of Guantánamo. If and when Guantánamo is closed, the US government will simply ship alleged terrorists caught up its international dragnet to other American-run prison camps.
On the question of so-called “harsh interrogation techniques,” i.e., torture, Obama’s orders leave room for their continuation. White House Counsel Gregory Craig told reporters the administration was prepared to take into account demands from the CIA that such methods be allowed. Obama announced the creation of a task force that will consider new interrogation methods beyond those sanctioned by the Army Field Manual, which now accepts 19 forms of interrogation, as well as the practice of extraordinary rendition.
Retired Admiral Dennis Blair, Obama’s nominee for director of national intelligence, told a Senate confirmation hearing that the Army Field Manual would itself be changed, potentially allowing new forms of harsh interrogation, but that such changes would be kept secret.
Obama also announced a second task force that is to consider the fate of the 245 detainees remaining at Guantánamo. Earlier this week he suspended the military commission procedures at the prison camp, but has not abolished the military commissions themselves.
The new administration has ruled out the only constitutional remedy for those who have been held under barbaric conditions, without due process, for years—either releasing them or giving them a speedy trial in a civilian court, with all of the accompanying legal protections and guarantees. There has been a great deal of speculation that the administration may support the establishment of a special National Security Court within the civilian court system to try Guantánamo prisoners and other alleged terrorists. This would represent yet another attack on civil liberties, setting up a drumhead court system to railroad those charged with terrorism—something that could in future be used to repress political opposition.
According to NBC Nightly News on Thursday, the administration is considering keeping some 20 Guantánamo detainees, including the five alleged 9/11 conspirators currently facing military commission trials, imprisoned indefinitely without charges in a military brig within the US.
Commentators have noted that the Obama administration wants to prevent noncitizens detained as terrorists from being able to exercise habeas corpus rights.
Two separate measures taken Tuesday and Thursday by Obama point to a further major consideration behind his moves to close Guantánamo and finesse the issue of torture. On Thursday the administration requested a stay in the habeas corpus appeal to the Supreme Court by the only alleged enemy combatant now held on US soil—Ali al-Marri, of Qatar, whom Obama has called “dangerous.” Al-Marri’s lawyers are challenging the right of the president to arrest and jail individuals by declaring them enemy combatants, and it was expected that the Supreme Court’s hearing of the appeal would force Obama to reveal his position on the issue.
This followed Tuesday’s request for a stay from the Federal District Court in Washington in similar appeals that could affect the cases of more than 200 Guantánamo prisoners.
Thus, the immediate effect of the new administration’s moves is to halt civilian trials that could prove immensely damaging to the government by revealing systematic torture of the detainees and could potentially entangle high government officials.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/guan-j23.shtml
Posted by Michael | January 24, 2009 12:51 PM
Posted on January 24, 2009 12:51
if you think you can be such a great leader, why didnt you run?
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Posted on February 2, 2009 18:03
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The continuation of the ideological pretext for wars of aggression and attacks on democratic rights ensures that the police state infrastructure erected under the Bush administration will remain intact. This is further reinforced by Obama’s assurances that his administration will not investigate or prosecute those officials—including Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and others—who were responsible for the policies of torture and illegal detention.
The ordersftce study guide\ signed by Obama do not undo the Bush administration’s attacks on constitutional and international law. They do not challenge the supposed right of the president to unilaterally imprison any individual, without trial and without charges, by declaring him to be an “enemy combatant.” Nor do they end the procedure known as “extraordinary rendition,” by which the United States during the Bush years kidnapped alleged terrorists and shipped them to foreign countries or secret CIA prisons outside the US, where they were subjected to torture.
They do not affect the hundreds of prisoners—600 at the Bagram prison camp in Afghanistan alone—incarcerated beyond the barbed wire of Guantánamo. If and when Guantánamo is closed, the US government will simply ship alleged terrorists caught up its international dragnet to other American-run prison camps.
On the question of so-called “harsh interrogation techniques,” i.e., torture, Obama’s orders leave room for their continuation. White House Counsel Gregory Craig told reporters the administration was prepared to take into account demands from the CIA that such methods be allowed. Obama announced the creation of a task force that will consider new interrogation methods beyond those sanctioned by the Army Field Manual, which now accepts 19 forms of interrogation, as well as the practice of extraordinary rendition.
Retired Admiral Dennis Blair, Obama’s nominee for director of national intelligence, told a Senate confirmation hearing that the Army Field Manual would itself be changed, potentially allowing new forms of harsh interrogation, but that such changes would be kept secret.
Obama also announced a second task force that is to consider the fate of the 245 detainees remaining at Guantánamo. Earlier this week he suspended the military commission procedures at the prison camp, but has not abolished the military commissions themselves.
Posted by erwinzeez | May 29, 2010 1:11 AM
Posted on May 29, 2010 01:11