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Franklin who?

By Michael J. Smith on Tuesday October 10, 2006 07:53 AM

J Alva Scruggs writes:
The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt was sold for scrap during the Carter administration.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv42-fdr/cv42-fdr.html

This is what I've been trying, with very limited success, to get across to people for a while now. Even the myths of Roosevelt were toast by then. The Dems were desperate to shed the pragmatism of balancing capitalism with a welfare state. They appear to me to have wholly bought into the Republican concept of general prosperity and democratic participation as threats. They've been peddling penny wisdom with great piles of pound foolishness ever since.

Personally, I would have said that the Democrats were trying to backpedal on the Roosevelt legacy as soon as Roosevelt was in his grave, if not before (though they had to put the project on hold for a while there, in the mid-60s). But it certainly makes for a sweet symmetry that it was Carter who delivered the symbolic coup de grace.

It's interesting that Carter is the forgotten Democrat among Kosniks and all the other Dem-identified pwogs. They always fast-forward from Kennedy to Clinton -- and come to think of it, they don't usually have much to say about Johnson, either. I suppose their worship of Harry Truman is based on sheer ignorance.

Comments (5)

J. Alva Scruggs:

Thinking about Johnson is worse than thinking about Lakoff's elephant. On capitalism, the New Dems have a moralistic and utopian program. Johnson was more pragmatic and not as mean. Then there's that little problem of the Vietnam war. Not to mention his stepping down. It's saying a lot that Johnson (!) was too nice a guy to fit neatly into the happy spin myth for selling candidacies.

Personally, I would have said that the Democrats were trying to backpedal on the Roosevelt legacy as soon as Roosevelt was in his grave, if not before (though they had to put the project on hold for a while there, in the mid-60s). But it certainly makes for a sweet symmetry that it was Carter who delivered the symbolic coup de grace.

MJS, I'd say they were having fits of buyer's remorse alternating with a realistic approach to managerial capitalism throughout that time. Yielding to the demands of the real world is a defeat! Carter gave them "closure". The pecksniffian tendency had a victory in his cardigan sweater approach and his lower key foreign meddling gave them hegemony without tears.

js paine:

"hegemony with out tears"

"penny wisdom .."

"pecksniffian..."

pap smiff if i waz u
i'd
sign that boy to a recordin' contract

'course i ain't u
and i bet yer glad of it

js paine:

trying to figure the living legacy
dancing about
inside
these various
pwog-netheads
gets tough

as u father Refined pointed out
yerseff
vis a vis
rheinhold nieh hee ??

and if u can figure that one
then there's
that papist
schmidt guy
for the fawn faced
anti-glibertarians

whats we all this teutonia ???

pablo:

update
the scruggs site has eloped
with a white sheet of virtual paper

no new word from it in days

call alan smithee
i hear between on sight shoots
he does shot gun weddings
floral arrangements and
"marital advice " by ms xeno

J. Alva Scruggs:

It's a long story, Pablo. It starts, actually, back in 1999. Dr. Velvet's wife's brother-in-law's cousin Ipheginia married my ex-mother-in-law's nephew Orestes, who at the time was working for my current employer, Astyages Inc. After the unpleasantness with Harpagus, LLC, Orestes contacted Dr. Velvet, then employed at Hamm & Robbies, to see if we were interested in going shares on a restaurant. I had some difficulties with the law shortly thereafter, but when I came back they had gotten together with Baby Boomer Esiason, whom you may know, Zoot Organizing Kit and the Majestic Fire Hamster. Upon my release, I was able to come on board as partner. All seemed well for about year.

What we didn't know was that squirrels had made nests throughout the infrastructure that supported the restaurant. The morphable ownership structures of the supporting enterprises worked to make the regular maintenance practices subject to aggressive cost cutting. The squirrelist ethic had taken over. Business has been suspended as a result, hopefully temporarily, and I have gone back to operating a pushcart, in an effort to make ends meet. Dr. Velvet, now pursuing another doctorate, is a frequent visitor to the pushcart, but of course it's not the same. We're hpoing to move to a more favorable location at some point in the near future.

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