[Hillary] may very well have to begin retooling her position on the war soon if she wants to prevent her sheep from straying from the flock. According to one of Howie Hawkins' press releases:A Zogby poll earlier this week found that 32% of New Yorkers would vote for an "unnamed anti-war candidate" vs. 38% for Clinton and 31% for other and undecided (a percentage that is close to the hard core Republican vote).Here's to hoping!The task now for the Green Party and the wider antiwar movement is to attach a name, Howie Hawkins, to the "unnamed anti-war candidate" who already has about one-third support and to inform New Yorkers that the anti-war candidate is within striking distance of winning.
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this post puts me in mind of
new york state's
wild multi ballot line system
an artifact of the new deal era
in particular
the .....
'working families 'party
one of
the more recent
in a long serious
of honey trap ballot lines
set by machine donkery
to capture
anti machine donkery
votes
in this profound instance
that one lady machine
st hill of rodham square
her the hawk ette queen
getting the endorsement
of a "party"
on record as anti iraq war
now that's fusioneering
at its damnedest
Posted by jsp | June 15, 2006 1:26 PM
Posted on June 15, 2006 13:26
JSP, funny. Your posting style (with multiple line breaks) is exactly the same as one of the worst, redbaiting, pro-Israel, fanatical "don't criticize the democrats" posters on Atrios.
I thought you were him for a second until I read this.
one of
the more recent
in a long serious
of honey trap ballot lines
set by machine donkery
to capture
anti machine donkery
votes
Speaking of anti-war candidates, I've heard some not so great things about Jonathan Tasini's tenure at the writers guild.
And I know nothing about Ned Lamont (although it looks as if he's competative).
But my gut feeling?
The Democrats don't take either house of congress in 2006 but Lamont knocks out Lieberman.
The prog/dem blogs than say "hey you purists, so we didn't win congress. But we took out Lieberman. Give us another chance. We can do it in 2008".
Posted by Stanley Rogouski | June 16, 2006 9:51 AM
Posted on June 16, 2006 09:51
sr:
"The Democrats don't take either house of congress in 2006 but Lamont knocks out Lieberman "
the best of all possible worlds
Posted by jsp | June 16, 2006 10:18 AM
Posted on June 16, 2006 10:18
JSP -- "Best of all worlds?" Me, I'm rooting for Lieberman. Think what a discredit he is to the Party. The best recruiter us disaffecteds could possibly have.
Posted by MJS | June 16, 2006 10:34 AM
Posted on June 16, 2006 10:34
JSP -- "Best of all worlds?" Me, I'm rooting for Lieberman. Think what a discredit he is to the Party. The best recruiter us disaffecteds could possibly have.
I'm not sure why people specifically target Lieberman when Biden, Hillary, Reid, and Obama are almost as bad.
Maybe it's that whiny dopey, bassett hound face......
But I always thought it was because he attacked Clinton and that made him persona non grata among progressive democrats.
Posted by Stanley Rogouski | June 16, 2006 10:56 AM
Posted on June 16, 2006 10:56
Yeah, I never understood why the same liberals who condemn Lieberman turn around and support Kerry, Gore, Clinton, and the rest of the sorry bunch. It is pretty funny that he has become the scapegoat, when in reality he represents something not far from the mainstream of modern Democratic Party thinking.
Posted by Haikuist | June 16, 2006 12:10 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 12:10
joe suffers as the IT boy
in the school yard
a judas goat..
Posted by js paine | June 16, 2006 12:44 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 12:44
Given the current vogue on SMBIVA for sports talk, I was going to dub Holy Joe the sacrifice hitter. You know, the guy who gets thrown out at first base but creates enough distraction for the other runners to advance. Etc.
However, given the gullibility of the average diehard liberal Democrat, a real sacrifice play isn't necessary. All they have to do is *almost* get rid of him, and everyone will go home satisfied. Yawn. (The "winning is everything" rule having been momentarily suspended for the sake of everyone's ego.)
It really does disgust me how little coverage out there is going toward candidates like Hawkins. Blogs are touted as some kind of thumb in the eye to mainstream media, and here they are happily/spitefully enforcing the blackout against legitimate candidates just as any corporate newsservice would. Hell, for all I know, the Post or Newdsay might be giving Hawkins more positive coverage than any liberal blog does. That wouldn't surprise me either. (Then I suppose the liberals would wail that they only do it to undermine poor, poor Hilary, those fiends.)
If anything stands as proof that most liberal blogs, not just the biggies like Kos, care about a party more than they care about issues, the blackout against Greens certainly does. >:
Posted by ms_xeno (fka alsis39.9) | June 16, 2006 1:18 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 13:18
But ms_xeno, the Green Party and Ralph Nader are solely responsible for the entire Bush regime!!! they're EVIL!!!!! Don't you understand???? If it wasn't for them, we'd be frolicking in the earthly paradise under the kindly President Gore!!!!
Posted by Djur | June 16, 2006 3:31 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 15:31
However, given the gullibility of the average diehard liberal Democrat, a real sacrifice play isn't necessary. All they have to do is *almost* get rid of him, and everyone will go home satisfied. Yawn. (The "winning is everything" rule having been momentarily suspended for the sake of everyone's ego.)
Yes!!!
Democrats have the losers attitude, almost winning is winning.
You learn this when you go to a university like Rutgers.
OK, the football team lost 178 - 3 to the University of Miami but YES. WE GOT A FIELD GOAL!!!
Posted by Stanley Rogouski | June 16, 2006 3:50 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 15:50
Bwa! :-) You wouldn't believe how often I run across that on faux-liberal blogs, Djur. Usually it goes something like this:
----------------------
Yeah! If Gore was president, money and candy would rain down from the sky while happy frou-frou elves go door-to-door delivering free Ben & Jerry's and trees would sprout ipods and Tommy brand jeans and fruit snacks! Palistinians and Israelis would lay down their arms and start forming ultra-cool ska bands!
Then Al would raise John Lennon and George Harrison from the dead, re-unite The Beatles and they'd all go on a world tour together performing all new songs John wrote while he was dead. And we'd all get free tickets and there'd be complimentary champagne and Doritos and...and...fruit snacks and stuff!
Cars would run on grass clippings and get 6,000 miles to the Hefty Super-Strong Lawn & Garden bag! MTV would start running music videos again! The Giants would win the pennant! Acne, hives and the heartbreak of psorisis would all be things of the past, if only Al Gore had been elected.
But noooooo! Thanks to that evil bastard Ralph Nader, terrorists flew planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon! Then he started the war in Iraq and sent his evil 3rd party minions to murder babies in the streets of Bagdad! And he stole all of John Kerry's votes and hid them deep beneath the ocean in his super-secret underwater lair! It's all true! I read it on the Daily Kos!
Not only that, but I found out that Ralph Nader is an...an arab! It's true! And Nader makes TV stations broadcast crappy reality shows! And he makes me wear a seatbelt and brush my teeth and take out the garbage in Hefty Super-Duper Strong Kitchen bags!
And that's why I vote democrat!
Posted by AlanSmithee | June 16, 2006 6:02 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 18:02
Sorry. I don't frolic. Not manly enough. Gotta' impress those War Dems with my latent Iron Ladyism/Machismo. WWCIID. What Would Clinton the Second Do ?
Posted by ms_xeno | June 16, 2006 6:20 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 18:20
alan s
where do you get the energy to write like that about that ...here
btw smarty pants
my car does run on grass clippings
and and i seen ralph's lair
and the stolen ballots too
its really keen
and
you're not allowed ...
Posted by js paine | June 16, 2006 9:09 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 21:09
Ralph's a Yankee fan, too. Oh, the horror, the horror...
Posted by ms_xeno (fka alsis39.9) | June 16, 2006 10:33 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 22:33