By Michael J. Smith on Friday June 16, 2006 01:49 PM
JSP passed this along:
A piece on Counterpunch quotes a moveon.org mailing as follows:
To prove that Iraq is important to focus on during the election we hired a top political polling firm to investigate the opinions of voters in the top 68 "swing" districts-two-thirds of these districts are represented by Republicans.I seem to recall that some panelists at Yearly Kos cited similar results (or possibly the same results).Here is what we found:
- The war is by far the most important issue to voters in these districts right now.
- By wide margins these voters think the war was a mistake and not worth it. People are angry about the war.
- A discussion about Iraq during the campaign increases support for the Democrat.
- A Democrat who takes a firm stand for getting out of Iraq does better than a Democrat who takes a wishy-washy position-even in the face of Republican attacks like, "cut and run."
- Republicans are vulnerable to all sorts of attacks-including their blind support for Bush's policy of never-ending war.
- Voters are universally angry about how defense contractors have been put ahead of our troops and how priorities here at home have been neglected.
Now given that this is so -- why is the Democratic Party still so gun-shy on this issue? Frankly, it makes me wonder whether they're not motivated less by electoral calculation than by a certain, erm, Lobby.
Comments (6)
t'is true
this
play's the thing
to catch the conscience of the swing
but to win this way
is to lose
the money of that ...
zionic thing
Posted by jsp | June 16, 2006 2:10 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 14:10
http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/3433496.htm
Posted by fp | June 16, 2006 5:59 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 17:59
In addition to THE LOBBY the Arms Lobby has to be right up there with them...
Posted by Tim D | June 16, 2006 6:47 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 18:47
my guess big energy trumps that pair
and they still have wall streets ear if not heart
but here we're getting
too telegraphic
to be enlightening
i'll cease
Posted by js paine | June 16, 2006 8:55 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 20:55
Post 911 was a convergence of forces - a perfect storm. It was no one single force, but then it never is. One of the most important cabals was Cheney's secret energy task force
Of all the dems problems the most serious is not realizing that GWOT is mostly a fiction and al-Zarqawi is mostly a black psy ops cover for the El Salvador solution (maybe they do know).
Thanks for the link. I have been trying to figure out the meaning of the paper and I had never seen this angle. It's perfectly plausible.
I would never misunderestimate the party's ability to sell anyone down the river but if you watch deep fundamentalism, christian zionists are being manufactured and mobilized by the boatloads these days
It's all ugly business, the democrats need to go the other way - find the money somewhere else.
Posted by jesus reyes | June 16, 2006 10:59 PM
Posted on June 16, 2006 22:59
fp:
the scape goat line
rings true to me
as usual
anti jew sounds
make a nice cover
for the energy boyz
whether
they miscalced here
which i doubt
or if
the presenthigh price
" nice supply constraint"
was the prefered eventuality all along
at any rate
it'll be fun
to watch the neo cons
get bounced off
the GOP bridge
like super k was
its really a trite common place
it works so f ing well
blame jews
for any
failed high risk high stakes
project
like the cold war
coming and going
or
the great war
losing and wining
or as in this case
a mid east imperial botchery
upward or downward
but i must point
carefully
what i take to be
the heft of the barb
of mjs
the democratic party unlike the republican
is to a signifigant
degree
" dependent "
today
on donors
who if not
zionist are
surely sensitive
to the fate of the jews
inside
the present day
state of israel
and more broadly
to the "maybe again "
glint
of a rising
anti semitism
and so leverage is there
to keep
a failed mid east
policy alive
some what longer
on the donk front
then you'd expect
by polling
the views
of its base
Posted by js paine | June 17, 2006 1:54 PM
Posted on June 17, 2006 13:54